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This week I welcomed one of my closest mom friends to the show, Emily McConnell. I wish we could say we met at a “mommy and me” class or that our kids went to the same daycare, but no, we met because our children died. We were mom friends before we had living children to show the world, mom friends through PAL, and now mom friends who are parenting after loss. Today, Emily shares about her daughters Margaret and Elyse, what it was like to go through a PAL during a pandemic, and the importance of counting kicks. 

Resources mentioned in this episode:
Visit Emily and Dustin’s blog at
Learn more about Count the Kicks at

If you are currently pregnant, download the free Count the Kicks app, available for both iOS and Android, to keep track of your baby’s kicks! Use this app every day during your third trimester of pregnancy to track your baby’s movement patterns. Be sure to alert your provider immediately if you notice significant changes in your baby’s movements.